UK bounty hunters

[Rokcet Scientist]

You can now snitch for cash, Roy! From the comfort of your own armchair! For just £13 annually you can now be eligible for big cash prizes! Step right up and get your piece of the action!

Who is watching you on CCTV?



The UK is one of the heaviest users of CCTV in the world but for many shops, there is nobody to monitor the cameras so internet users are being invited to help in return for cash prizes.
A network of CCTV cameras monitors the centre of London and, deep underground, trained professionals monitor the 120 feeds, coordinating the search for everyone from terrorists to petty thieves.
But for smaller shops, monitoring CCTV can be too expensive and too labour intensive to be practical.
A controversial website called Internet Eyes. invites British internet users to fill in the gaps. For £13 a year, subscribers can become part-time crime fighters. [...]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/c ... 232158.stm

[Digit]

I'll sign up! Most shop lifters in London are bloody foreigners!

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

I'll sign up! Most shop lifters in London are bloody foreigners!

That'll build a nice database of xenophobes for Julian to release. After all, in order to love thy neighbour we need to know him first, don't we?

[Digit]

I don't need to love my neighbours as that's a Christian requirement, and when did repeating official figures amount to xenophobia exactly?
Here's another piece of xenopbia for you, a Muslim's biggest enemy in the UK is another Muslim, or most crimes against blacks in the UK is committed by blacks.

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

I don't need to love my neighbours as that's a Christian requirement

So because you're not a christian it's OK to hate your neighbours? That's pretty perverse logic!

and when did repeating official figures amount to xenophobia exactly?

The minute it became slanted, shallow bartalk. Exactly.

Here's another piece of xenopbia for you, a Muslim's biggest enemy in the UK is another Muslim,

Yeah...and what? What is the conclusion you heavily insinuate but don't actually (dare, yet) say?
Of course most crimes against muslims in the UK are committed by muslims! They live among themselves, in muslim communities (exactly like white colonials used to live in white colonial communities, remember?), because that's what expats and cultural or racial minorities do. So it follows that criminals, statistically, are from the same communities...
DUH!

or most crimes against blacks in the UK is committed by blacks.

Yeah...and what? What is the conclusion you heavily insinuate but don't actually (dare, yet) say?
Of course most crimes against blacks in the UK are committed by blacks! They live among themselves, in black communities (exactly like white colonials used to live in white colonial communities, remember?), because that's what expats and cultural or racial minorities do. So it follows that criminals, statistically, are from the same communities...
DUH!

Here's a news flash: did you know that most crimes against whites in the UK are committed by whites...? And that crimes figures committed by whites dwarf those committed by blacks and muslims...?
So whites are by far the biggest problem in the UK! So maybe you should seriously consider getting rid of the whites. Problem solved. What say you, old chap?

Yeah, and 99% of criminals have a shower at least once a week. That makes you highly suspect as well, of course.
So now you've already got 2 ticks against you! Plus you're technical, you'd be a star at "I.E.D." manufacturing!. AND you're cranky! 2 more ticks! That's 4 converging vectors in your profile! Wow man, you must be on their 10 most wanted terr'ists list...
So expect a knock on your door anytime.

Categorizing people – currently en vogue, again, under the euphemistic moniker of 'profiling' – is prejudicial bigotry and leads to social exclusion, unfounded hate, great human misery, and humongously terrible consequences.
Our Geert 'Blondie' Wilders would love to have you. As would Cunt Beck, Asshole O'Reilly, and Pathetic Palin, a.o.

A lesson already forgotten:

[Minimalist]

Shocking image, R/S and I see your point although I'm not sure the analogy holds too far. I'm not sure what I think about Wilders. But part of that is that I'm not certain that muslim immigrants to Europe ( and here) are part of the same dynamic as earlier groups.

Resistance to Mexican/Latin American immigrants in the US boils down to the fact that they speak Spanish and are generally poor. The immigrants themselves, like virtually all immigrant groups which have come here, have the same desire to assimilate into American 'culture' (whatever that may be.) Obvious exceptions to that general rule are the Amish who went off to live by themselves and sell trinkets to tourists. Most immigrant groups tend to live in enclaves for the first generation but their children and grandchildren are fully assimilated into American society.

I'm certainly no expert on Wilders but from what little I've heard the situation in Europe with muslim immigrants is much different. There they are demanding not to assimilate but that the various European countries acquiesce to their particular superstitions. This is something very different and I can certainly see a backlash coming. Who tolerates a rude house guest? France (to my amazement) has actually begun cracking down on some of this nonsense. Will this cause some of the other European countries to grow a pair of balls and start pushing back? It might.

The Jews were Europeans and had been so for centuries when Hitler decided they were a convenient scapegoat, which is where I think your analogy breaks down. Still, muslim 'leaders' should put down their korans long enough to read a little mid 20th century European history. It can happen again.

[uniface]

The immigrants themselves, like virtually all immigrant groups which have come here, have the same desire to assimilate into American 'culture'

Not so. Some may. Most are intransigently dedicated to preserving traditional Mexican folkways. Like roving wolfpacks of adolescent boys gang-raping unescorted women under cover of darkness . . .

The Jews were Europeans and had been so for centuries when Hitler decided they were a convenient scapegoat

Will you guys ever quit passing your simplistic cartoons off as as history ?

German Jews had long-since developed a rapproachment with the people around them. So long as this was the case, nobody cared whether you went home and said Our Father, Hail Mary or Shema Yisroel.

What changed this was two things : Jewry's worldwide support of the Allies against Germany when the Balfour Agreement was announced, and the flood of heathen (no other term suffices) refugees into Germany in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Russian government. Scorning the culture of their host country, they set about turning it into a moral cesspool (as they did here in the US until the Catholic Legion of Decency brought Hollywood to its knees with a boycott of films). That people became aware that the financial speculators who both caused the catastrophic Weimar currency collapse in 1923 and profited from it (buying up cultural treasures for pittances and exporting them) was icing on the cake.

[Rokcet Scientist]

the situation in Europe with muslim immigrants is much different. There they are demanding not to assimilate but that the various European countries acquiesce to their particular superstitions.

No. Not "they". Just a small, militant, very vocal part of "them". The in-your-face types. Assholes in any society. A small orthodox/reactionary minority.
The vast – silent! – majority of muslims came to Europe for 2 reasons: 1) a better economic future, and 2) to escape the stifling, oppressive, and corrupt cultures and politics of their birth countries. I.o.w. their goal was/is progress, change. They're looking to achieve the complete opposite of the status quo they were locked into back home! That's why they left in the first place!
One shining example: over 80% of EU muslims (of middle eastern, Asian, or north African origin) never go to mosque anymore*! In their home countries that's no more than 5%!
That silent majority is culturally blackmailed and terr'ised – 'held hostage', if you will – by that orthodox minority.
Very much like the orthodox/reactionary witch hunters of Salem or the McCarthy era completely terr'ized the general population. It was a very small minority that actively screwed up society. It's the same with muslims in Europe.

*for Turks that figure is over 60%. Turkey has had strict 'separation of church and state' since Kemal Atatürk in 1924. Islam is less oppressive in their society, therefore better palatable, thus more acceptable/accepted. Whence Turkish muslims feel less urged to leave that mosque than muslims from orthodox muslim countries do.

[Digit]

You of course will not accept 'slanted' figures, but in the UK as of 2004, the attendance was 930000 out of a population claiming to be Muslims of about two million.
I know nothing of Mexican crime figures, but of the last 57 cases that were prosecuted in the UK of sexual grooming of young white girls off the streets, 53 were conducted by men of Muslim backgrounds, mostly Pakistanis apparently. According to a Muslim leader who warned our previous government of a developing problem, the cause is that Muslim women are 'off limits.'
Better fire up the ovens again.

Roy.

[Minimalist]

Uni, you need to stop listening to Glen Beck. He's an asshole.

[Digit]

Seeing as the Weimar government stabilised the currency with the Rentenmark ten years before Weimar ended that would sound like another simplistic cartoon I think.
Also their inflation was lower than other countries have suffered and survived without a war.

Roy.

[Digit]

There they are demanding not to assimilate

That may not be true in Europe, I wouldn't know, but it is most certainly accurate in the UK.

Roy.

[Digit]

The UK police have just charged a Dutch windmill designer with murder. Thanks to DNA and guess what? CCTV evidence!

Roy.

[uniface]

Uni, you need to stop listening to Glen Beck. He's an asshole.

He's a political talking head on TV -- right ?

Seeing as the Weimar government stabilised the currency with the Rentenmark ten years before Weimar ended that would sound like another simplistic cartoon I think.

Google up German Inflation 1923.

[Digit]

I have! Now you read up when they got it under control.

Roy.