the scorpion planet

[marduk]

I have long been a big fan of Zechariah Sitchin
i think his books make the history of Sumer accessible for so many people who don't know how to read plain english at credible free sites like this

http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/editio ... bynumb.php
and this
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/index.html
and this
http://www.etana.org/
and this
http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/chron00.html
and this
http://www.mythome.org/mideastg.html
and this
http://the.iraq.museum/
and this
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htm
and this
http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
and this
http://www.sumerian.org/
and this
http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/RA/Research_Arch.html
and this
http://www.pantheon.org/
and this
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinis ... ntpage.htm

clearly with so many properly researched and credible sites available the benefit of reading the writings of a man who actually trained as an economist and who holds no historical or linguistic qualifications whatsoever must be overwhelmingly beneficial

the way he blends together Sumerian gods from 3500bce with akkadian gods from 2000bce with babylonian deities from 1000bce has always been for me the ultimate proof that for that to happen they must either have all been aliens or had access to some form of time travel technology
either that or Mr Sitchin got it wrong
and that of course is just impossible
obviously i realise that he has now revised the date of Nibirus return twice when it failed to show up but seeing as his bad heart condition diagnosis meant that he wasn't expected to live long enough to see it anyway must have caused him to forget to carry the one a few times, remember he never claimed to be a mathematician so i think thats just an oversight on his part and instantly forgivable

it all started when he discovered this cylinder seal at a berlin museum
its catalogued as VA243


now i realise of course that orthodox trained and qualified sumerologists to a man all say that this shows the Akitu festival which happened twice a year,
the first time being during the ancient world new year when the pleaides was in ascendence and which the sumerians used as a new year marker
and the second time being during the month of GIRTAB (scorpio) 6 months later
of course if that were the case then theyd be able to produce a very similar cylinder seal that has a scorpion in the same pllace that VA243 has twelve planets wouldn't they
and their claim that it shows the pleaides which the sumerians called MUL.MUL (star and stars) bears some consideration but i prefer the idea that it correctly shows the twelve planets in our solar system much better
and yes before anyone says anything i realise that officially there are now only 8 extra solar planets in our system since we just lost pluto but the Annunaki spacemen who actually flew past it must have known better so we'll have to take their word for it as translated by Zechariah. the orthodox sumerologists can't even spell Nibiru anyway. for some reason they spell it Neberu and claim it was a word that meant quay, port; crossing or ford and not a planet on a highly eliptical 3600 year orbit so what do they know eh
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/epsd/e148.html
but having done a little research myself i have discovered something that mr Sitchin has missed
here is a cylinder seal that i found that shows another extra planet in our solar system
its just as valid as saying that VA243 shows twelve planets

as you can see it shows a huge scorpion shaped planet that can only be on an even more highly eliptical orbit than Nibiru or else Mr Sitchin would have discovered it long ago and been sure to mention it to his loyal fans the sitchenites already
because I can see no reason why he wouldn't mention it, can you

[Starflower]

Marduk, thank you for finally starting your long awaited Sumerian thread.
Sorry I bugged you so much I can't believe you wrote all that with a straight face I will post again later after I've gotten through some more of those links. Right now I'm exhausted from reading this one.
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/index.html And I thought Latin was hard to understand

[Starflower]

I'm still reading through the links, there are some good bits of songs there in the hymns and cult songs on link #1. Meanwhile thought I would post this here, since she might have been involved in some of this here translation work.
http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?St ... 0525-2924r

The petite, smiling, grey-haired, and impeccably groomed Cig was born in the northwestern city of Bursa in 1914 as World War I, which would sound the death-knell of the Ottoman Empire, began.

She obtained her degree in sumerology and hittitology before the start of World War II in Ankara, the new capital of the strictly secular republic where man and woman were equal before the law.

She obtained her PhD, married, and joined the staff of the Istanbul Archaeological Museum where, for the next 33 years, she put her talents to translating some 3,000 Sumerian tablets inscribed with the cuneiform writing invented by the ancient inhabitants of what is now Iraq.

Cig, a mother of two daughters who speaks German and English, retired in 1972 but continued to write articles and books - 13 of them - about this little known civilization, which, by inventing writing, ended prehistory.

Back later(after my nap maybe)

[marduk]

she might have been involved in some of this here translation work.

the translations in the links are epsd and etcsl
epsd is in pennsylvania and etcsl is based at oxford
neither pennsylvania or oxford mind what you wear on your head while you are employed by them

[War Arrow]

of course if that were the case then theyd be able to produce a very similar cylinder seal that has a scorpion in the same pllace that VA243 has twelve planets wouldn't they

There are twelve planets if you count Charon, Mondas and the Fendahl Homeworld. Charon is Pluto's moon. Mondas was home to the Cybermen in Doctor Who, and the Fendahl homeworld was in the same docudrama - although it was destroyed by the Time Lords and thus became the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

Hope that helps.

On a more serious note, I'm starting to miss Pluto. Always had a bit of a soft spot for it. Not like bloody Jupiter with all those silly moons...

[marduk]

aha
you missed out Skaro
and Vulcan

so thats 14

[War Arrow]

aha
you missed out Skaro
and Vulcan

so thats 14

Well, well, I did miss out Vulcan.
But Skaro! Don't be ridiculous - that's light years away.

[marduk]

its on the move
it was here about the same time as Nibiru
i.e. never
we were talking fiction right
what about the other 25 planets
if you got a planey x you gotta have planets A through Y to justify it

[Cognito]

On a more serious note, I'm starting to miss Pluto. Always had a bit of a soft spot for it. Not like bloody Jupiter with all those silly moons...

Yes, we lose Pluto but keep Uranus. How do you explain "Uranus" to a room full of school children with a straight face?

[marduk]

I hear that Uranus has an aura

[Starflower]

Okay I skipped to link #4 and was thrilled to discover I would not have to learn Sumerian in order to read about them, only to understand them. I just finished off the kings list, those kings with the really long reigns were not being fair to their sons who usually had much shorter reigns. Couldn't they have been considerate of the poor boys. Then I got suckered into reading the Royal Chronicles of Lugas,which is in reality a Babylonian chronicle written in Sumerian. How was a girl to know that, oh, wait I could have read the intro. Duh. And by the way, that statuette of a Sumerian is beginning to give me the creeps. I'm beginning to think Uhuru is right when she says 'be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.' Just kidding, thank you Marduk for all of the Sumerian info. Back after I've read more.

[Cognito]

Thanks for the references, Marduk. And to think that the Sumerians were living in cities at 3,500bce nearly a thousand years before the pyramids were built!

[marduk]

And to think that the Sumerians were living in cities at 3,500bce nearly a thousand years before the pyramids were built

yeah well that doesnt mean all that much when you consider places like Catalhoyuk
what would be impressive is if they had kings from before the egyptians but you know with their king list all screwed up n all with kings reigning for 1200 years at a time no ones ever going to prove that one

[Cognito]

but you know with their king list all screwed up n all with kings reigning for 1200 years at a time no ones ever going to prove that one

Hmmm, an allegory? Maybe they weren't referring to kings at all? What do you think?

[marduk]

I think they based their math on something other than semite 10
thats what I think

semite 10 sounds like an explosive doesnt it
you know though i think its more powerful than semtex

as in semtex can bring the house down but semite 10 can collapse the house of God
allegedly