Can't We Just Vote Him Off The Island?

[MichelleH]

And who should I censor or allowed to be voted off next?

Whether we choose to like it, approve of it or not the debate of science vs. religion, even in archaeology, are not exclusive of each other and will not be for some time.

If you do not like a topic or a post, you have three choices. The first being to find/start a new topic, the second is to debate the post intelligently; the third is to ignore the post/poster.

There are many good minds here coming from many and varied points of view including belief whether it is empirical or spiritual belief.

To quote Dudley Field Malone- “I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.”


MichelleH

[marduk]

so you're all for teaching creationsim in classrooms then
that all the dating of anything older than 4004bce that comes as a result of the scientific process is wrong
that archaeologists the world over went through at least 4 years hard study at university in order to join a worldwide conspiracy to hide the truth about the bible
that when you die you won't have a choice of what happens to you as it will be up to god wether you live in heaven singing hymns to gods greater glory or are thrown into the pit to be tortured in agony for all eternity
that your ancestors born before the birth of christ are all in hell now because they weren't saved. Including the children who succumbed to a high mortality rate

Michelle
we don't have to put up with this kind of crap in the real world so why should we have to put up with it here
is this a forum about the science of archaeology or is it about Arch's inability to discuss anything with anyone in a reasonable manner

you are basically saying with your inaction that everytime a new member decides to quit because of him and not post here again that you approve because after all its up to them where they post
in other words
you don't care about the posters wishes at this forum as long as you can continue to be in charge

well thats a pretty shitty way to run things in my opinion
no other decent archaeology forum on the internet allows that kind of crap
and until you do something about it this will always be a third rate forum
and people will choose to post elsewhere because as you say thats their decision and they have plenty of better options don't they

[Minimalist]

we don't have to put up with this kind of crap in the real world so why should we have to put up with it here

You could not be more wrong, marduk.

In the "real world" we have this 'crap' in the White House and leading your prime minister around on a leash.

Putting your head in a hole and pretending it isn't there is foolish.

[Minimalist]

Let me add one other point.

I would rather embrace Arch's stupid bible than have his right to speak abridged..... and you KNOW what I think of his bible.

[tj]

And who should I censor or allowed to be voted off next?

The next troll that comes along? I realize that Arch's intent isn't to troll, but at the end of the day the result is the same.

There are many good minds here coming from many and varied points of view including belief whether it is empirical or spiritual belief.

Equating the acceptance of evidence garnered via sound methodology with spiritual belief is laughable, flabbergasting, and insulting all at once.

I do put up with this crap in real life and I'm not interested in putting up with it in what I consider to be a classroom. I'll exercise a fourth option and go elsewhere.

[Cognito]

Well, it would still be fun to set him adrift with minimal provisions just to see what happens, don't you think?



For myself, I would like to find out if God would be providing him with manna and rainwaiter on his journey.

[marduk]

why doesn't Arch post at the Hall of Maat
or why not at the GHMB
or why not at any other formal archjaeological board
i think you all know the answer

[Frank Harrist]

Not fair, Marduk. She didn't say she agreed with arch she just said he had a right to post his views. I don't particularly like arch being here either, but I can't think of a good reason to boot him off. I suggest, as I have suggested a few times before, that we ignore him and maybe he'll go away. I think Michelle does an excellent job here. She gives us more freedom than any other board I'm on. This is not a 3rd rate forum. It's the best I've found. We need to keep the religous stuff to the two or three threads where it's suppose to be, if you can't ignore it. I know it's hard. He draws you back in with insults...you know, the christian way.

[marduk]

when i suggested to her in a pm that she incorporate a code of conduct because of Arch i was told to consider posting somewhere else
so clearly she is in support of it because she would rather have Arch continue to post here than people who rely on science for the answers
thats fair enough
i am about to take her advice and drop this board from my forum list anyway because i'm sick and tired of the resident nutter

when Arch spreads his crap hes voicing his opinion
when i respond in kind apparently it is a personal attack

Name calling and petitions for removal are childish and beneath your intellegence.

Michelle H
funny isn't it that i am not the first and will not be the last to ask that question
apparently everyone who asks for a decent forum to post in is childish
thats cool with me because like i said
"third rate forum"
as long as Arch is in it

[Beagle]

why doesn't Arch post at the Hall of Maat

Because the hall of maat has come to Arch.


I just couldn't resist

[marduk]

the hall of maat isn't a living breathing entity you know beagle
your paranoia is getting a bit worrying

[Barracuda]

I am not suggesting that Arch be censored in any way. I was just being sarcastic because I was annoyed.

Beagle hit the nail on the head. This was not a problem to me as long as it was isolated to 2-3 threads, or 3-4 threads. A couple of those threads were obvious challenges to Arch. As Michele noted, I simply choose to ignore those threads.


Frankly, what annoyed me was the thread on the Australian footprints. I was looking forward to some interesting reading, and it degenerated into sheer foolishness.

I am not suggesting we kick Arch and Min off the playground, just leave some room for those of us who do not wish to be involved in such an asinine discussion.

I am not suggesting, or recommending, that Arch be censored. Just asking him to have some respect for others who do not wish to discuss, or read the subject. I thought that request might carry more weight it it came from more than one person.

[Frank Harrist]

I agree, 'cuda. Just keep it to the proper threads. Obviously there are some here who do wish to discuss those subjects. The problem is bringing it out to everyone else. Take potshots at each other on those threads.

[Beagle]

why doesn't Arch post at the Hall of Maat

Because the hall of maat has come to Arch.


I just couldn't resist

[Guest]

why doesn't Arch post at the Hall of Maat
or why not at the GHMB
or why not at any other formal archjaeological board

actually i have posted at the Hall of Maat, i just changed my user name so there would be no immediate bias or uproar. i do not know that many archaeological boards so that it the other reason i haven't posted other than here.

provide links and i may consider testing the waters but again michelle's position doesn't make here third rate, it makes her honest and credible.

i may not agree with minimalist but i would not impede his right to post his position either. his words remind me what Larry Flynt said, when asked why he fought so hard against the charges:

"If i don't speak out for the right to free speech, who will?"

it is obvious that the religious right won't and so i take the stand that though i disagree with Flynt he has the same right as i do to speak his mind.

now Michelle can confirm this, i have only written to her once-maybe twice-, despite all the abusive posts aimed at me, to complain about a poster and his/her abusive methods. that poster i feel is only here to cause trouble and not contribute constructively and has gone to far in many of his/her responses.

sure i come from a position that most disagree with but it is a valid one with archaeological evidence to support it along with my own investigative theories.