archaeologist wrote:starflower-- there is a post addressed to you, if you can find it amidst the kibbetzers.
Arch--I read your post and it does make sense that there would be no record of their entry into Eqypt for the reasons you cited. Also found out that the traditional number of household members is seventy. And as they were told 'not to regard their stuff' it is possible the amount of evidence left to be found would be quite negligible.
I have pm'd you with some nonarchaeological(it's historical instead)information I was provided with on this subject.
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
"Give us the timber or we'll go all stupid and lawless on your butts". --Redcloud, MTF
Once I was asked if I could remain a faithful and observant Jew and also accept the possibility that Moses, as described in the Torah, may be as much legend as historical - perhaps more legendary.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
i amnot sure if protestants will read that publication.
If the Hebrews lived in Goshen or thereabouts, they would have been using Egyptian materials, equipment, etc., thus it would be difficult to prove a different people lived in Egypt. Furthermore, if there were evidence, I would expect a reluctance on the part of the Egyptians to offer opportunities for Jews to look for evidence of their existence in Egypt and their successful exodus.
but it is not exactly the same as i propose. just the first sentence is what i am thinking. but thanks i can use that source.
As soon as Arch gets the DVD of the program I suspect there will be a spirited debate about that "program
we shall see,so far i am not holding too high of hopes forit based upon what i have read.
I was more interested in your reply to the slavery question which you ignored completly as I'm sure you did with the other 49 points on offer
figured you did.
i have ignored it for now as there is a lot of work involved to bring you the correct answer but judging from your posts, i think you have already made up your mind what those verses refer to and thus i would just be wasting my time.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
depends on the usage of the word, the hebrew words used, the context of culturalism, and so on. just because it says the word 'slave' does it mean or refer to the slavery that the african people were subject to.
If slavery was such a piece of cake, why does 1/3 of the bible waste its time getting the non-existent Israelites out of their non-existent bondage in Egypt.....where they never were?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
why does 1/3 of the bible waste its time getting the non-existent Israelites out of their non-existent bondage in Egypt.....where they never were?
that is your opinion and i think i have established very good reasons why they would be deemed non-existent.
i don't think i was saying it was such a piece of cake, especially since the word slave could mean just servant, such as 'butler' or 'maid' does. slave could also mean the worst kind of situation, such as when referring to the american south of the 17th to the 19th centuries.
to determine how it is used in the Bible properly, takes work.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
You've already defended Joshua's genocide so what is a little slavery in comparison, huh?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
why does 1/3 of the bible waste its time getting the non-existent Israelites out of their non-existent bondage in Egypt.....where they never were?
that is your opinion and i think i have established very good reasons why they would be deemed non-existent.
i don't think i was saying it was such a piece of cake, especially since the word slave could mean just servant, such as 'butler' or 'maid' does. slave could also mean the worst kind of situation, such as when referring to the american south of the 17th to the 19th centuries.
to determine how it is used in the Bible properly, takes work.
So then the bible cannot be taken literally?
"The history of science is the record of dead religions"
Wilde
