Sea People

[Minimalist]

Except a bloody nose is a painful reality.

[Digit]

I'm with you all the way there DB. I have met some Moslems that I have counted as friends, but as a religion I think it stinks!

[Beagle]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull

That was the bad news. The good news was that beneath the mostly-destroyed Philistine village was something the group hadn't expected - a massive late Bronze Age settlement. "In terms of construction, the Bronze Age settlement was huge," Rosen says. "We have mud brick walls two meters thick and structures 10-15 meters across preserved more than a meter high, all underneath the ground. It's amazing - mud brick doesn't last, so finding this kind of thing is very exciting."

From todays Archaeologica News.

[Cognito]

Back on topic. Submitted for a review by all those interested in the relationship between the Phoenicians and Sea Peoples' invasions. I had noted early on that Phoenician cities were not attacked except for Alwad ... and the Hittites were responsible for that one.

http://www.phoenician.org/sea_peoples.htm

[Minimalist]

It's a good article...but I think they have the cart before the horse.

It seems as if the Sea Peoples were the ones who took down the Late Bronze Age kingdoms, judging by the diplomatic correspondence among the various sites.

And the Egyptians did not withdraw from Canaan until c 1140 BC.[/quote]

[Beagle]

Hi Cogs - hope you had a nice summer y'old rascal.

[Minimalist]

Back on topic. Submitted for a review by all those interested in the relationship between the Phoenicians and Sea Peoples' invasions. I had noted early on that Phoenician cities were not attacked except for Alwad ... and the Hittites were responsible for that one.

http://www.phoenician.org/sea_peoples.htm

Surprisingly for such a pivotal moment in world history, the events which took place at that time are not well understood and are widely debated.

It isn't surprising at all. The Vandals, Goths, and Huns did not have their own historians. What we know of them comes largely from Roman writers. I imagine the Sea Peoples were too busy killing and looting to bother much with keeping a chronicle of what they did....and their victims didn't have much of a chance to write.

[Digit]

Where ya bin Cog. Missed ya!

[Cognito]

Digit, work has been keeping me incredibly busy over the summer (I just acquired 25 more employees) with a variety of other interests also coming into play. The only thing I really regret is not sprinting since spring, but it should be back onto the cinders in January. My buddy just told me I would have taken 3rd place in the 100M if I had showed up to the World Games in Italy --- aaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!:evil:

[Digit]

What can I say? Sometimes it's better not to be told that sort of thing.

[Cognito]

It seems as if the Sea Peoples were the ones who took down the Late Bronze Age kingdoms, judging by the diplomatic correspondence among the various sites.

In the wake of the Sea Peoples' migrations southward by sea and land the fact still remains: Hittites (destroyed), Myceneans (destroyed), Egyptians (weakened). Phoenicians (not affected).



The Phoenicians were right in the center of the fray and not one city sacked or pillaged. On the contrary, they begin a well-documented expansion of their sea trading empire in the 12th century. Coincidence? Hmm.

[Minimalist]

Perhaps the Phoenecians were properly situated to fill the trading vacuum created by the destruction of the other powers? Nature abhors a vacuum.

[Beagle]

By coincidence, I just finished watching a program on TV about the Phoenicians. Among the genetic studies that were done, no evidence was found between them and the Sea People.

That makes me wonder where they got the DNA markers for the Sea People.

[Cognito]

That makes me wonder where they got the DNA markers for the Sea People.

Beags, I'm not sure that's possible at this time. If nobody is really sure who the Sea Peoples were, how could we know their genetics?

[Beagle]

If nobody is really sure who the Sea Peoples were, how could we know their genetics?

Exactly my question. I stayed up to watch this show on PBS, and that's what was said. Seems very odd. To expound a little, they said that the Sea People settled in the Levant and probably jump-started the expansion of the Phoenicians in their sea going trade network, but did not intermarry.

I know, doesn't make sense.