Noah's Flood...

[Minimalist]

it is no secret that many creationists have little knowledge on what they are talking about

You are living proof of that, arch. No argument here.

[Minimalist]

You see if he has to come up with an answer other than "it's in the bible" or a quote from some Christian author, he's lost.

Amen.


Thanks for your support, Rene.


We have one of those fucking idiots in the White House.

[tj]

Clearly science is under a widespread attack from the cuckoo asylum .My deepest gratitude goes to minimalist,frank and allt hose willing to confront an opponent I certainly wouldn't try to convince as from the first posts made it is clear you can not reason with fundamentalists .

Very nicely said Rene. I'd like to voice my support also for all that battle this culture of willful ignorance and mind-boggling credulity.

[Minimalist]

[Guest]

Very nicely said Rene. I'd like to voice my support also for all that battle this culture of willful ignorance and mind-boggling credulity

there really is no batttle because those who oppose the Biblical record do so froma position of unbelief which allows them to fudge the rules, tilt the playing field and in other words eliminate the possibility of a fair discussion.

absence of evidence does not mean it did not happen though most people against the Bible take that position or they ignore common sense as they rush to disprove what God has said.

though this recent discovery brings this debate to the forefront again, i don't think it will make much of an impact.

the question needs to be asked: why would God allow the ark to be found? faith doesn't require such a discovery and there is plenty of evidence to support the biblical record, though unregenerated minds locked inthe hands of the evil one, will never attribute such discoveries to where they belong.

so because you reject the evidence all you have left yourself is---- faith. your cries against faith are actually cries against yourselves because you have limited all options for yourselves by rejecting, dismissing or ignoring the evidence God has left for people to strengthen their belief.

the Biblical record employs science and thus does belong here on this board, itjust won't dowhat the non-religious wants, which in science it is allowed to do.

[Minimalist]

absence of evidence does not mean it did not happen

But you ignore evidence to the contrary and then accuse those who dig it up of hating your fucking bible.

You're an astonishing hypocrite, arch.....obviously you've learned your bible lessons well, though.

[ReneDescartes]

I mean this absolutely serious .This so called archeologist would be safely tucked away in mental institute if not for the right of every person to adopt a religion or conviction of his choice . But to try to refute all the facts science can provide on the basis of a fairytale book is beyond my understanding .
I've seen evangelical preachers at work in Papua . THey certainly are not doing a christian job over there ?Nor are they doing so in Guatemala .They just go to the most ignorant fringesof society and convert those who are too ignorant to understand what it isall about .Is this what Arch is doing in Korea ? REcently those bible nuts have come to Europe to preach too .Lucky for us the media here are not so commercialised.You can not buy your way in arch,money wont helpyou here .

[Minimalist]

Belgium sounds nice, Rene.

[Guest]

Lucky for us the media here are not so commercialised.You can not buy your way in arch,money wont helpyou here

personal attacks mean nothing they just make you look bad, close-minded, arrogant and biased.

This so called archeologist would be safely tucked away in mental institute if not for the right of every person to adopt a religion or conviction of his choice

that is your answer to avoid the truth, lock up those with the answers. typical evolutionist, if you can't win, throw away the key. but that is typical evolutionist mentality, we can't prove our theory so we make sure we are the last man standing.

real manly, what a joke.

[tj]

Very nicely said Rene. I'd like to voice my support also for all that battle this culture of willful ignorance and mind-boggling credulity

there really is no batttle because those who oppose the Biblical record do so froma position of unbelief which allows them to fudge the rules, tilt the playing field and in other words eliminate the possibility of a fair discussion.

I wouldn't say that there isn't a battle, but I would say the battle is a lot like beating up kids in wheel chairs. As for dishonest play, I've yet to meet a believer that wouldn't resort to any tactic at all when they find that they've painted themselves into a corner. The position of the believer is simply untenable without resorting to 'the bible says' or 'I believe'. It's logically indefensible due its faith-based nature. It is, in my opinion at least, clearly designed that way. You seem to misunderstand this.

absence of evidence does not mean it did not happen though most people against the Bible take that position or they ignore common sense as they rush to disprove what God has said.

Quantify 'most' and define 'common sense'. The problem with common sense is that your version of it and my version of it are likely different. You do realize this right? You might also want to demonstrate that 'God' actually said the stuff that you attribute to him before you have a hissy fit about people trying to disprove it. You haven't established that he said it in the first place.

faith doesn't require such a discovery and there is plenty of evidence to support the biblical record, though unregenerated minds locked inthe hands of the evil one, will never attribute such discoveries to where they belong.

so because you reject the evidence all you have left yourself is---- faith. your cries against faith are actually cries against yourselves because you have limited all options for yourselves by rejecting, dismissing or ignoring the evidence God has left for people to strengthen their belief.

I'm not really sure what to say to this kind of insane rambling. Get some help before God tells you to chop the limbs off of your children.

the Biblical record employs science and thus does belong here on this board, itjust won't dowhat the non-religious wants, which in science it is allowed to do.

Will you restate this in such a way that it actually makes sense?

[gunny]

Noah was an albino sez DeVinci Code?

[Beagle]

Noah was an albino sez DeVinci Code?

Gunny! Good to "see" you. You've been gone a little bit.

[Leona Conner]

[quote]personal attacks mean nothing they just make you look bad, close-minded, arrogant and biased. [/quote]

When it comes to being closed-mined, arrogant and biased, go look in a mirror.

Furthermore, do not keep referring to us "non-believers" we do believe in something, it's JUST NOT THE MYTHOLOGY YOU BELIEVE IN.


[quote]absence of evidence does not mean it did not happen [/quote]

By the same token, how can absence of evidence prove something did happen?

Bet you keep warm in winter by burning books that do not conform to your thinking. Like some of the dumb-ass fundamentalist we have living here in the south, they live in constant fear that their precious child might find out that in this world people can think for themsleves.

[gunny]

I was corrected---Da Vinci. Love you people-----Brash----Intellegent----Know a few four-letter-words.. Will be back more often.

[Minimalist]

I was corrected---Da Vinci. Love you people-----Brash----Intellegent----Know a few four-letter-words.. Will be back more often.

God damn it.....see that you do!